As usual, you’ve taken small parts of what I’ve written, and used them to make a sweeping generalisation about the rest of what I said. This was expected.

You see, what you’ve done here is produce an inductive argument known as ‘individual case to generalisation’. Inductive arguments are necessarily flawed and can never be proven, so, don’t think for one second that you may have gotten the jump on me.

Here goes.

Reverse chronological order…

Thanks, it took me all of five minutes to write.

I love how you assume that a twelve year old wouldn’t understand Spinal Tap. Maybe you should have said ‘I’m not stupid’ because that would make more sense. I suppose that the fact that you said ‘twelve’ as opposed to ‘stupid’ simply emphasizes that you really didn’t understand it.

You misunderstood my point about ‘copying’. Probably my fault for being vague. Here is, instead of a clarification of my point, a refutation of yours. It doesn’t follow that, because the boys have influences, everything they do is necessarily a copy of what influenced them. I didn’t say it was wrong to do what you did with regard to the 70′s and 80′s thing, i simply said it was hypocritical. (It’s also circular, like Bible logic! Which raises the possibility that, you will justify yourself by saying you ‘just know’, please don’t i beg you)

I never once suggested that you were copying, and I apoligise for making you think so. What I meant was, that I see the same illogical (yes, that’s how i see it) reasons for saying the album is crap, and when something is illogical it is wrong, because it is literally incoherent.

About the live thing… Let me explain.

First off, you are wrong about that ‘live thing’ because; you said, ‘justify bad song writing…. album review’. Okay, song writing is a necessary factor in both studio recordings AND in live performace, whereas studio recordings aren’t necessary to live performance or vice versa. The two are both Independant Variables based on the one necessary one — song writing. Therefore, if a band performs well live, then it reflects well on their song writing, and not necessarily on their studio recording. Obviously, you can now say ‘But this still has nothing to do with studio recordings’. Well, it does! Because if the songs are well written, then it does come through in the studio recording! Likewise how people justify shit live bands by saying that they are great studio artists. I’d prefer wonderful live, personally.

The next thing you might say is ‘Ah, but I am still talking about an album and not live! Ha! I has you!’ Well, you don’t, in my own mind at least. And this is because the point about 70′s and 80′s circular hypocrisy is a freaking strong one and explains why the album review is flawed.

The main issue i have with your first ‘paragraph’ in your response to me is that it makes two points while seeming to make only one. So here’s the second response to the second point. Shaka Rock is a good studio album

So maybe I am totally wrong here because I assumed that your points follow on from eachother, and if I am, then we can go through them all seperately.

I’m having so much fun ^^

P.s. I hope you don’t think I’m deliberately setting out to be offensive, (I know this next point makes me a huge wanker), but, as my studies revolve around logic, reason and argument, i see the way i talk about your points more as an argument against untruths than an argument against you personally. That said, I think you’re arrogant. But I’m probably more arrogant than you, and since I’m awesome how could it be a character flaw? Case closed.

Tony – please respect my opinion and I will respect yours but don’t get offensive and don’t spread lies. I didn’t review this on face value or just listen to 15 seconds of each song. You can’t possibly think that – particularly when I pay important attention to the way the band finish their songs. And as for the ‘copying’ 70s and 80s rock bands thing – it references this on the band’s own website! I don’t copy other reviews.

And I get the whole point of Spinal Tap. I’m not 12. It was a direct and understandable reference relating to the volume of the singer’s voice. I fail to see why people don’t get this.

Great review. Now go away and write a proper one.

@ Llanaen, fuck yes, he must have a small cock. Man, I thought he was giving Nic a compliment when he went on about the amps to eleven bit… sadly, I was mistaken. He missed the whole point of the amps to eleven — It should’ve been said as a compliment not an insult, that reviewer (whatever his name is ) obviously didn’t get the joke and thought that Spinal Tap was a serious documentary.
@Pickelo, yeh bro tht ablum is tits — Also, I got my subwoofer back from the repairs today, fully sik.

This is a real review.

Ignore the critics’ “reviews at face value”; they are nothing but boring denunciation which shows that they only listened to the first fifteen seconds of each song. Anyone with a real objective idea of what constitutes a good album will review Shaka Rock and review it highly, there is nothing to be said for people who have only bad things to say — They are wrong.

Jet’s third album, Shaka Rock, delivers solid, catchy, relatable(?) and fun musical mastery. The bands tunes in Shaka Rock are free of the over-produced feel of the last album, Shine On, with a new producer ‘Frenchie’ Smith, and the beat has come back up to cheer us up like Get Born did, such a long time ago.

If there is any real criticism to be made of this band, it is that there is too long a gap between albums. Reviewers expect three years’ work to be compiled into one album — Or the culmination of any gap of time with one album and another. The truth is, however, like a disorganised student studying at the last minute, Jet come together at the last second after being placed apart all over the globe and rely on their pure talent to pull them through. And, boy it does! Without classical training and with independant production, the boys from Melbourne have pulled off something that most who boast the exact opposite cannot — An eye catching album cover, inspired music, confidence in vocals and soul that makes the music acceptable on many demographics.

Good one, Jet

“Jet’s vocalist turns it up to eleven and then finds one more notch on the amp.”

It’s a Spinal Tap reference. It’s a great film. You should watch it sometime.

This album is the best thing I heard all year,

wadda u know. That album is tits bro,

As for the song writing, the sound would work with some decent songs. That’s all it is for me. Some of it works, most of it doesn’t. It’s empty and souless and the ridiculous lyrics smacks of what U2 are doing these days (Get On Your Boots, or whatever it’s called).